Former UAP Task Force member and retired U.S. Air Force intelligence analyst Lenval Logan returns to the podcast for a wide-ranging conversation following David Grusch’s latest appearance on Joe Rogan. Logan reacts to Grusch’s new claims, discusses what was being talked about inside the UAP Task Force, revisits extraordinary footage he says he saw during his time working the issue, including a hug
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I’m breaking down Lue Elizondo’s latest interview with Martin Willis on Podcast UFO, including his government role, comments on crash retrieval secrecy and the questions surrounding his relationship with David Grusch. Then, Chris Bledsoe’s October 7th “new knowledge” prediction and the launch of the Bledsoe Institute for Research. I look at his explanation, the proposed research and why the announ
7 Oct 2026 · 52 minAndy and Pavel unpack David Grusch’s latest Joe Rogan appearance, from human-looking beings and alleged alien encounters to his confidence that disclosure is coming. Why have his comments divided the UFO community, and where is the evidence? We also discuss Jake Barber’s claims of a cylindrical mothership releasing egg-shaped craft, the latest on Skywatcher, and what these increasingly extraordina
6 Oct 2026 · 2 h 12 minDavid Grusch’s second Joe Rogan interview takes his UFO claims much further. But what did he actually say, what has changed, and what questions remain? Join me as I break down his account of retrieval footage showing human-looking bodies, alleged encounters with reptilian beings, NHI conflict, underwater bases and his prediction of disclosure before Trump leaves office. 🔥 Support the show & get bo
2 Oct 2026 · 58 minAndy and Pavel break down Jay Stratton’s latest comments ahead of Out of the Shadows, including his claim that he can reveal “a lot more than people think,” previously untold UAP events, questions over the history of AAWSAP/AATIP and why government appears to keep starting again. Plus, James Fox addresses the controversy surrounding Jason Sands and explains what he would have done differently, whi
29 Sep 2026 · 1 h 48 min** Support the pod & get your personalised plan - hims.com/thatufo ** Doomer Friday returns for a deep dive into another huge week in the UFO story. We break down Dylan Borland’s appearance with Sean Hannity, including his extraordinary claims about who, or what, may really be “running the show,” the implications of the abduction phenomenon, and the huge 100-foot equilateral triangle he says he wi
26 Sep 2026 · 2 h 38 minWho is behind PURSUE, and why should UFO whistleblowers trust it? I’m joined by Pavel to discuss the unanswered questions around PURSUE’s call for whistleblowers, the viral footage from Tehran, and Jacques Vallée’s intriguing account of alleged communication with a non-human entity. We get into: • The Tehran “UFO”: something extraordinary, or LED lights on a kite? • PURSUE, transparency and the ri
22 Sep 2026 · 1 h 36 minWhat does Danny Sheehan believe is happening behind the secrecy surrounding UFOs and what supports his claims? In this extended preview of Unfinished Business, my new members-only series, I bring together around 90 minutes of conversations with lawyer Daniel Sheehan, built around your questions. We explore: • What evidence Danny would seek to establish the existence of non-human intelligence in co
21 Sep 2026 · 1 h 29 minIn Part Two, Karin Austin tells the story of meeting Harvard psychiatrist Dr John Mack and how their relationship changed the way she understood her experiences. Karin discusses Mack’s approach to people reporting extraordinary encounters, the work they did together, their friendship, his death and the efforts to preserve his legacy and archives. We then bring the conversation into the present day
15 Sep 2026 · 1 h 10 minIn Part One of my conversation with Karin Austin, we explore the extraordinary experiences that have shaped her life. Karin describes unusual encounters going back to childhood before recounting the intense period of experiences that began again in her twenties - including missing time, apparent beings, altered states, out-of-body experiences and the encounter she says finally convinced her that a
14 Sep 2026 · 1 h 24 minA quick update on the new interviews and shows coming your way, including more from Danny Sheehan, some major upcoming guests and a few hints at what could be around the corner. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/
11 Sep 2026 · 7 minIn 1971, a Costa Rican government mapping aircraft photographed Lake Cote every 13 seconds. Frame 299 showed nothing unusual. Frame 300 captured a metallic, disc-shaped object. By frame 301, it was gone. Nobody onboard saw it at the time. Andy is joined by filmmaker Adam Pillon to discuss The Cote Photo, a new documentary investigating one of the clearest and best-documented UFO photographs ever m
10 Sep 2026 · 54 minAndy and Pavel dig into another busy week of UFO news, claims and controversy. They examine the remarkable 1971 Cote UFO photograph, Dylan Borland’s alleged experiences and “demonic” interpretation of the phenomenon, Diana Pasulka’s thoughts on possession and NHI, and the growing debate around spirituality and UFO disclosure. Also discussed: Shane Smith’s reported VICE UFO series, possible future
8 Sep 2026 · 2 h 27 minDr Diana Pasulka returns to discuss her new book, *The Others*, in a wide-ranging two-hour conversation exploring UFOs, AI, religion, death, consciousness and Disclosure. We get into who or what “The Others” may be, whether UFO belief is becoming a new religion, the links between anomalous experiences and the afterlife, Peter Thiel and the Antichrist, the Vatican archives, misinformation in ufolog
4 Sep 2026 · 1 h 59 minTodays Sponsor - hims.com/thatufo , by using the link you support me directly Andy joins Pavel and Missile Man Jack to discuss reports that David Grusch could be returning to Joe Rogan, and whether a second appearance might deliver the next major moment in the disclosure story. Also covered: Trump’s new US Space Academy and nuclear propulsion plans, Grusch’s comments on NHI biology and human origi
1 Sep 2026 · 2 h 18 minOn this episode of Doomer Friday, I join Clint, Pavel and Justin for a deep dive into Robert Bigelow’s latest podcast conversation with current Skinwalker Ranch owner Brandon Fugal. We get into some of the more intriguing claims and stories surrounding the Ranch, the wider mystery around Bigelow’s involvement, and what it could all mean. We also discuss a British MP becoming more openly involved i
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27 Aug 2026 · 7 minThis week, Andy and Pavel examine some of the biggest claims in the UFO world. From Eric Davis’s revelations on the podcast and Tim Gallaudet’s possible Atlantis discovery, to Lazar’s nine recovered craft, Grusch suggesting the real number could be between 25 and 100, and more whistleblowers preparing to speak out. How watertight are these extraordinary claims, and where is the evidence? https://w
25 Aug 2026 · 2 h 27 minDr Eric Davis joins Andy for a major conversation about recovered UAP technology, NHI bodies, alleged government contact and decades of secret reverse-engineering efforts. Davis begins with his bottom line up front, explaining why he believes UAP are real, controlled by non-human intelligence and have interacted with humanity for thousands of years. He discusses the classified evidence he says he
24 Aug 2026 · 1 h 37 minI’m back on Doomer Friday, joining Clint, Pavel and Xander, with Chris Ramsay of Area 52 also dropping in for a wide-ranging conversation on where the UFO disclosure story goes next. With a growing number of whistleblowers publicly calling on President Trump to waive their NDAs, we discuss whether this really could be a defining moment for disclosure or whether the entire conversation could once a
22 Aug 2026 · 2 h 17 min