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Named Best Personal Finance Podcast by Bankrate.com and Kiplinger — and the only podcast the Plutus Awards retired from competition after winning twice — The Stacking Benjamins Show is personal finance that doesn’t put you to sleep. Hosts Joe Saul-Sehy (former 16-year financial advisor, ex-WXYZ-TV “Money Man”) and Josh “OG” Bannerman, CFP (Certified Financial Planner, Bannerman Wealth) sit around the card table in Joe’s mom’s half-finished basement in Texarkana and talk money with the smartest guests in personal finance, investing, and behavioral economics. As Fast Company wrote, the show “strikes a great balance of fun and functional.” Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday: expert guests, real headlines, listener questions, and Doug’s trivia. Topics include investing, retirement planning, budgeting, real estate, behavioral finance, taxes, and financial independence — for anyone who wants to be smarter about money without being talked down to. Subscribe to The 201 — the free newsletter that goes deeper than the show — at stackingbenjamins.com/201

Latest episodes

How to Fix Your 401(k): 25 Moves That Work Even If Your Plan Isn’t Great SB1909

Most people check their 401(k) the way they check a gas gauge: a glance, a shrug, and back on the road. Joe and OG pop the hood on the whole engine and work through 25 fixes, from a two-minute change to a phone call that could cut real money from your fees. The surprise is how many of them have nothing to do with your employer’s plan. A mediocre 401(k) can still do its job if the rest of your acco

12 Oct 2026 · 51 min
What the Fed’s Rate Hike Means for Your Money, Plus the Buy Now, Pay Later and Kalshi Traps SB1908

The Fed just raised rates for the first time in more than three years, and the markets barely flinched. Your mortgage, your CDs, and your next car payment may feel it differently than the headlines suggest. The panel breaks down what a quarter point actually changes, then turns to two newer ways of borrowing against your future self: buy now, pay later apps that run almost entirely on debit cards,

9 Oct 2026 · 1 h 4 min
Lauryn Williams: What a Four-Time Olympian Learned From Her Biggest Money Mistakes SB19077 Oct 2026 · 1 h 2 min
Credit Cards 101: Points, Cash Back, and the Traps Card Companies Want You to Fall Into SB1906

Credit card companies are getting smarter about one thing: making an $800 annual fee feel like a steal. Joe and OG open the vault on how the points-and-perks game actually works, why "free" subscriptions and dining credits aren't really free, and the one simple piece of math that tells you whether a point is worth more than cash. Doug plays referee in a live round of Points, Cash, or Pass, and it

5 Oct 2026 · 54 min
Money Ideas That Sound Great Until You Read the Fine Print (SB1905)

Bigger returns. Guaranteed income for life. Retiring five years early. Every one of these sounds like an obvious yes, until you see the invoice that comes with it. Joe puts Doc G, OG, and Jesse Cramer through a rapid-fire "in or out" game: he pitches five genuinely appealing financial ideas, and each of them has to decide whether they'd actually take the deal, and name the worst realistic thing th

2 Oct 2026 · 55 min
Don't Tell the Car Dealer Your Budget (And Other Money Moves That Actually Work) SB1904

A $12,000 emergency room bill for popping a dislocated shoulder back into place. A car-buying strategy that saved one family $4,000 with a single text message. A college athlete's first taste of NIL money and the tax questions that come with it. Joe and OG spend today answering real questions from real Stackers, the kind of specific, practical situations that don't always fit neatly into a textboo

30 Sep 2026 · 58 min
Our Top 5 Esoteric Money Strategies That Work (For the Right Person) SB1903

Some financial strategies aren't bad, they're just wildly oversold to people they were never built for. Joe and OG walk through five genuinely legitimate, sometimes powerful tools, cash value life insurance, municipal bonds, qualified longevity annuity contracts, net unrealized appreciation, and complex charitable trusts, and draw a clear line between the tiny slice of people these actually help a

28 Sep 2026 · 59 min
Is "This Time Different"? A FinCon Panel on AI, Inflation, and Interest Rates SB1902

Live from FinCon, Joe sits down with historian and bestselling author Joseph Moore, Paula Pant, and Jesse Cramer to talk about what's actually keeping people up at night: AI concentration in the stock market, inflation anxiety that won't fully fade, interest rates that feel "stuck," and a housing market that seems rigged against newcomers. The twist is that almost none of it is new. From a Scottis

25 Sep 2026 · 58 min
Robin Wigglesworth: The Boring Market That Actually Runs the World SB1901

In April 2025, the bond market did something the stock market couldn't: it made a sitting president reverse course within days. Financial Times journalist Robin Wigglesworth, author of the new book A Fabulous Debt, joins Joe and OG to explain why bonds, dismissed for centuries as the dull corner of finance, are actually the bedrock everything else sits on. From a murdered medieval ruler in Venice

23 Sep 2026 · 1 h 5 min
Five Signs Your Financial Advisor Might Not Be Great SB1900

"How do I know it's time to fire my advisor?" That question came up over and over at a recent retreat, enough that Joe knew it needed its own episode. Today he and OG walk through five real, specific red flags, not vague warnings about fees, but concrete signs that your advisor might be coasting, out of their depth, or simply not built for where your life is headed. If you've ever sat in a meeting

21 Sep 2026 · 1 h 3 min
Should You Graduate From Index Funds to Individual Stocks? SB1899

You've done everything right. Emergency fund, employer match, maxed-out retirement account, boring diversified index funds quietly compounding in the background. And now some part of you is wondering: is there a next level? Financial educator Brian Feroldi joins Paula Pant and Jesse Cramer for a genuinely useful gut-check on whether picking individual stocks is a smart next step, a fun hobby, or a

18 Sep 2026 · 1 h 6 min
Lynda Gratton: What If You Live to 100? Here's How to Actually Plan For It SB1898

The traditional life plan, learn, work for four decades straight, retire once and for all, was built for a much shorter life than many of us are actually going to live. Lynda Gratton, London Business School professor and bestselling author of The 100-Year Life, has spent years studying what happens when that old blueprint stops matching reality. Her answer isn't a bigger retirement number. It's a

16 Sep 2026 · 1 h 7 min
Can You Retire With $500,000? $750,000? A Million? SB1897

Someone with half a million dollars confidently retires and thrives. Someone else with a full million dollars runs into trouble within a few years. The dollar amount alone never tells the whole story, and today's episode proves it with three real scenarios side by side. Joe and OG walk through exactly what changes the math: your age, whether Social Security has kicked in yet, how much of your spen

14 Sep 2026 · 56 min
Why "Doing It Yourself" With Money Is Costing You SB1896

Collaboration is celebrated everywhere else. Musicians collaborate. Athletes have training partners. Businesses merge their best ideas together. But mention teaming up on your finances, and suddenly it sounds suspicious, like you're doing something wrong. Joe sits down with Paula Pant, Jesse Cramer, and OG to ask why personal finance is the one area where going it alone gets treated as a virtue, a

11 Sep 2026 · 1 h 1 min
Todd Havens: Why Most People Don't Have a Money Problem, They Have a Thinking Problem SB1895

Todd Havens spent decades dreaming of a net worth of zero, just breaking even felt like an impossible finish line. Then, in 2021, at the height of COVID, a doctor delivered news that would reframe everything: incurable blood cancer, tumors too numerous to count. What follows is one of the most honest, wide-ranging conversations this show has had about money, mortality, and the difference between b

9 Sep 2026 · 1 h 17 min
You're Doing Risk Tolerance Backwards SB1894

Every brokerage account asks the same question: how comfortable are you with a 20% decline? Are you conservative, moderate, or aggressive? Joe and OG argue that's exactly the wrong place to start, and it's why so many people panic-sell at the worst possible moment. The real question isn't how you feel about risk. It's what rate of return your actual goals require, and whether you can stomach the v

7 Sep 2026 · 1 h 4 min
Angelo Poli: Why Your Health Is a Financial Decision (SB1893)

This is a different kind of episode. No trivia, no headlines, just Joe and longtime health and wellness expert Angelo Poli having an honest, unscripted conversation about what happened when a training injury, a missed diagnosis, and months of frustration sent Joe into a spiral he didn't see coming. It's a personal story, but the reason it belongs on a money show is simple: your ability to earn, th

4 Sep 2026 · 58 min
The 5 Secrets of a Happier Retirement with Wes Moss (SB1892)

What actually makes for a happy retirement? Today, Joe sits down with retirement expert Wes Moss , author of The Retire Sooner Method , to explore the research behind America’s happiest retirees. Wes explains why money is only part of the equation, how community and “super activities” give retirement purpose, why eliminating debt can create more freedom, and how a clear retirement plan can help re

2 Sep 2026 · 1 h 8 min
The Mental Trick That Makes Saving Money Effortless SB1891

Companies have gotten frighteningly good at removing friction from spending. One click, stored payment info, a box on your porch before you've even had time to regret the purchase. Today's episode flips that same idea around: what if you engineered your own financial life the same way, making good decisions the path of least resistance and bad decisions just annoying enough to make you pause? Joe

31 Aug 2026 · 54 min
How Many of These Ad Slogans Can You Still Name? (Paula Pant, Len Penzo, OG Play Along) SB1890

Everybody likes to believe they're too smart for marketing. Companies spend billions of dollars putting jingles and slogans in our heads anyway, and this episode puts that theory to the test. Paula Pant, Len Penzo, and OG face off in a rapid-fire game: Doug reads a slightly modified version of a famous advertising slogan, and they have to name the brand. What follows is a genuinely fun, surprising

28 Aug 2026 · 45 min