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Turning to the Mystics is a podcast for people searching for something more meaningful, intimate and richly present in the divine gift of their lives. James Finley, clinical psychologist and Living School faculty, offers a modern take on the historical contemplative practices of Christian mystics like Teresa of Avila, Thomas Merton, John of the Cross among others. Leaning into their experiences can become a gateway to hope, healing and oneness. Together with Kirsten Oates from the Center for Action and Contemplation, they explore listener questions and examine their own paths as modern contemplatives in this beautiful and broken world.

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Dialogue 1: Tell It Slant

In this first dialogue session, Jim and Kirsten will focus on two of Emily's poems, There's a certain Slant of light, and Tell all the truth but tell it slant, introducing the mystical way of seeing into which Emily can draw us. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: The Complete Poems of Emily Dickinson , Edited by Thomas H. Johns

12 Oct 2026 · 51 min
Emily Dickinson: Session 1

This is the first session which focuses on Emily Dickinson. In the tenor of the ancient practice of Lectio Divina, James Finley reads passages from Emily's poetry, reflects on core themes, and finishes with a meditative practice. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: The Complete Poems of Emily Dickinson , Edited by Thomas H. John

5 Oct 2026 · 32 min
Turning to Emily Dickinson

Welcome to Season 14 of Turning to the Mystics . This season we are turning to the poetry of Emily Dickinson for spiritual guidance. In today's episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates cover the life and person of Emily and discuss how we can work with her ideas to transform our lives. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about Jam

28 Sep 2026 · 46 min
Coming Soon: Turning to Emily Dickinson

Season 14 of Turning to the Mystics will continue with our next mystic, poet Emily Dickinson Our journey begins on September 28, 2026. Resources: The books Jim will be referencing this season are: The Complete Poems of Emily Dickinson , Edited by Thomas H. Johnson, which can be found here. Emily Dickinson by Cynthia Griffin Wolf, which can be found here.

14 Sep 2026 · 2 min
Thérèse of Lisieux: Listener Questions (Part Two)

In this episode, Kirsten and Jim answer Season 13 listener questions, which focus on the life and teachings of Thérèse of Lisieux. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. ⁠ Find out more about the Turning to the Mystics book series ⁠here.⁠ Connect with us: This podcast is made possible thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of th

22 Jun 2026 · 44 min
Thérèse of Lisieux: Listener Questions (Part One)

In this episode, Kirsten and Jim answer Season 13 listener questions, which focus on the life and teachings of Thérèse of Lisieux. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. Find out more about the Turning to the Mystics book series here. Connect with us: This podcast is made possible thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Ce

15 Jun 2026 · 49 min
A Coaching Session on Thérèse of Lisieux

In this special episode, Jim and Kirsten review the season and offer a way for us to turn to Thérèse of Lisieux for guidance on our own spiritual path. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul: The Autobiography of St. Thérèse of Lisieux , Third Edition, translated by John Clarke, which can be found ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠ , and

11 May 2026 · 40 min
Bonus: Fr. Richard Rohr on Thérèse of Lisieux

On this special bonus episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates interview Fr Richard Rohr about his special connection to Thérèse of Lisieux. Richard Rohr is a Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher who bears witness to the deep wisdom of Christian mysticism and traditions of action and contemplation. Founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation, Father Richard teaches how God’s grace guides

4 May 2026 · 53 min
Dialogue 3: The Holy Face

In this third dialogue session, Jim and Kirsten will focus on the meaning behind Thérèse's second chosen name, The Holy Face. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul: The Autobiography of St. Thérèse of Lisieux , Third Edition, translated by John Clarke, which can be found ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠ , and ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠ . ⁠⁠⁠⁠ St. T

27 Apr 2026 · 55 min
Thérèse of Lisieux: Session 3

This is the third session which focuses on Thérèse of Lisieux. In the tenor of the ancient practice of Lectio Divina, James Finley reads passages from the John Clarke translation of Thérèse's Story of a Soul , reflects on core themes, and finishes with a meditative practice. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul: T

20 Apr 2026 · 41 min
Dialogue 2: The Child Jesus

In this second dialogue session, Jim and Kirsten will focus on the meaning behind Thérèse's chosen moniker related to "The Child Jesus." Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here . The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul: The Autobiography of St. Thérèse of Lisieux , Third Edition, translated by John Clarke, which can be found ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠ , and ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠ . ⁠⁠

13 Apr 2026 · 54 min
Thérèse of Lisieux: Session 2

This is the second session which focuses on Thérèse of Lisieux. In the tenor of the ancient practice of Lectio Divina, James Finley reads passages from the John Clarke translation of Thérèse's Story of a Soul , reflects on core themes, and finishes with a meditative practice. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here . The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul:

6 Apr 2026 · 30 min
Dialogue 1: The Little Flower

In this first dialogue session, Jim and Kirsten will focus on the depths of Thérèse's simplicity and why she's often referred to as "The Little Flower". Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul: The Autobiography of St. Thérèse of Lisieux , Third Edition, translated by John Clarke, which can be found ⁠⁠here⁠⁠ , and ⁠⁠

30 Mar 2026 · 56 min
Thérèse of Lisieux: Session 1

This is the first session which focuses on Thérèse of Lisieux. In the tenor of the ancient practice of Lectio Divina, James Finley reads passages from the John Clarke translation of Thérèse's Story of a Soul , reflects on core themes, and finishes with a meditative practice. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here . The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul:

23 Mar 2026 · 34 min
Turning to Thérèse of Lisieux

Welcome to Season 13 of Turning to the Mystics . This season we are turning to Saint Thérèse of Lisieux for spiritual guidance. In this episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates cover the life and person of Thérèse and discuss how we can work with her ideas to transform our lives. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about James Fin

16 Mar 2026 · 33 min
Brother Lawrence: Listener Questions

In this episode, Kirsten and Jim answer Season 12 listener questions, which focus on the teachings of Brother Lawrence. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. Connect with us: This podcast is made possible thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, yo

1 Dec 2025 · 1 h 3 min
A Coaching Session on Brother Lawrence

In this special episode, Jim and Kirsten review the season and offer a way for us to turn to Brother Lawrence for guidance on our own spiritual path. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about James Finley, visit his faculty profile ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ . The transcript for this episode can be found here. The book we are using this seas

3 Nov 2025 · 1 h 0 min
Bonus: Carmen Acevedo Butcher on Brother Lawrence

On this special bonus episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates interview Carmen Acevedo Butcher about her translation of Brother Lawrence's Practice of the Presence . Carmen Acevedo Butcher is an award-winning translator, teacher, poet, and workshop leader. Her Cloud of Unknowing translation received a 46th Georgia Author of the Year Award, and Martin Laird calls her translation of Brother Lawrence

27 Oct 2025 · 1 h 1 min
Dialogue 3: Mystical Lineage

In this third dialogue session Jim and Kirsten will focus on Brother Lawrence's place in our mystical lineage along with his specific connections to Teresa of Ávila and John of the Cross. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about James Finley, visit his faculty profile ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠ . The transcript for this episode can be found her

20 Oct 2025 · 1 h 5 min
Brother Lawrence: Session 3

This is the third session which focuses on Brother Lawrence of the Resurrection. In the tenor of the ancient practice of Lectio Divina, James Finley reads passages from Carmen Acevedo Butcher's translation of Brother Lawrence's Practice of the Presence , reflects on core themes, and finishes with a meditative practice. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Con

13 Oct 2025 · 40 min